Mutuality Matters

(New Voices) “Women will be saved through childbearing”? 1 Timothy 2 and Artemis with Dr. Sandra Glahn

Show Notes 
Are women saved through childbearing? Blake and Erin tackle one of the stickiest passages concerning women in the New Testament with scholar, Sandra Glahn. In her forthcoming book: Nobody’s Mother, Glahn tackles this passage from 1 Timothy and the context that informs it.  You can find the book in CBE’s Bookstore.
 
Bio 
Sandra L. Glahn (PhD, University of Texas at Dallas) has authored or edited more than twenty books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, Sanctified Sexuality (coeditor), and Sexual Intimacy in Marriage (coauthor). This episode is about her forthcoming book from IVP Academic: Nobody’s Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament.
 
Other Resources 

Artemis of the Ephesians and the Ramifications for How We Read 1 Timothy: Sandra Glahn

How to Understand 1 Timothy 2? Context, Context, Context Andrew Bartlett

Paul’s Concern for Ephesus: A Survey of 1 Timothy 2:8–15

 
 
Disclaimer 
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Women & Words: Translating the Old Testament Part One with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj

In part one of “Translating the Old Testament with Dr. Havilah Dharamraj,” Havilah discusses not only her work leading CBE’s Old Testament translation team, but also their methodology, priorities, and examples of both. Significant examples cited include: 

 

Psalm 68:11, “The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng.” Havilah and the team propose a far more faithful translation in English as: “The Lord speaks good news, and a great multitude of women broadcast it.” She mentions women in Scripture who broadcast the good news such as Mary Magdalene, John 20:11–18.  

 

Considering the crucial issue of women’s inheritance, Havilah addresses Numbers 27:4 (correction from episode citing Num. 26:4): “Take a census of the men twenty years of age or older, as the LORD has commanded Moses.” And these were the Israelites who came out of the land of Egypt…” This passage has been the basis for women gaining inheritance rights the world over, especially today.  

 

Next, we explored Genesis chapters 1–3. Especially Genesis 2:23 and Genesis 2:24 (correction from episode citing Genesis 1:23–24) to consider whether these passages suggest woman is derivative of man and therefore lesser? Too often that is how the passage is interpreted. But the team opted not for “bone of my bone, but “my own flesh and blood.” A far better “sense” translation because it speaks directly to the highest kinship relationships in the ancient world and today as well. When Adam first meets Eve and recognizes her as his own flesh and blood, the text immediately moves to: Thus, the husband detach from his kinship relations—his parents to attach to his wife, this now is the strongest bond—new kinship relation of marriage (Genesis 2:24). Hence, this text, when interpreted well, is quite subversive and gives women protection from alignment with the husband’s clan where women are often vulnerable and without support. 

 

With power and wisdom, Havilah traces the pattern of chaos and disruption sin inaugurates into the sinless world. Sin disrupts the nature and relations of the serpent, the man and woman. The snake lost its locomotion, the man must labor to grow food, and the woman experiences pain in childbirth. Further, sin distorts/fractures not only the nature of life, but also the relationships between man and woman who no longer live in mutuality or oneness. In a sinful world, the man now rules over the woman who desires what was once their life of mutuality. Listen for more on these crucial passages. 

 

Please join us for Part 2 on October 6 as Havilah discusses the impact of better transitions on issues such as feminine language for God, sexual abuse cited in Scripture, and women of strength in Ruth. Join us next month as “Women & Words: Why Bible Translations Matter” brings better ways of interpreting the Hebrew Bible. 

 

 

Guest Bio:  

 

Dr. Havilah Dharamraj currently serves as academic editor of CBE’s award-winning academic journal, Priscilla Papers. She is a Langham Scholar and has for years pioneered a better biblical understanding of women in Scripture. Currently Havilah heads CBE’s chapter in India. She holds a PhD in Old Testament, from the University of Durham, UK. Her research interests are Old Testament and Comparative Literature. She is faculty at the South Asia Institute for Advanced Christian Studies, India. With an interest in biblical narrative, she encourages the use of storytelling in the pulpit. She is author of various articles, commentaries, and monographs, as well as an editor of the South Asia Bible Commentary (Zondervan, 2015) and the forthcoming South Asia Study Bible. Havilah writes and speaks for CBE. She received CBE’s Lifetime Achievement award in 2019. 

 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Publications 

 

Books: Authored and co-authored 

• Altogether Lovely: A Thematic and intertextual Reading of the song of Songs  
• Ruth: A Pastoral and Contextual Commentary (Asia Bible Commentary 
• A Prophet Like Moses?: A Narrative—Theological Reading of Elijah Stories 

• Five Views of Christ in the Old Testament: Genre, Authorial Intent, and the Nature of Scripture (Counterpoints: Bible and Theology) 
• Challenging Tradition: Innovation in Advanced Theological Education (ICETE Series) 
• South Asia Bible Commentary: A One-Volume Commentary on the Whole Bible 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s Articles 

 

• Published by CBE International 

 

Havilah Dharamraj’s CBE YouTube Lectures: 
 

• Revisiting Eden Genesis 2 as a Description from Below of the Creation Story 

• Reading Ruth from South Asia 

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

(Global Impact) Courage Worldwide’s Work Against Sex Trafficking in Tanzania and the USA with Stephanie Midthun

In this episode Mimi and Kim interview Stephanie Midthun of Courage Worldwide about their healing homes for girls rescued out of Sex Trafficking, both in the USA and in Tanzania. She discusses the root causes that make girls vulnerable to sex trafficking, as well as the healing girls experience that break the cycle of exploitation, causing a transformative ripple effect in the larger community. 

Trigger Warning: This episode contains details of trauma, sexual assault, rape, and abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  

Guest Bio 

Stephanie Midthun is trained in both Bible and music, serving as a music director for twenty-five years. In 2008 when Stephanie Midthun heard about the intense fight against human trafficking in her own backyard of Sacramento, she began writing music and leading concerts that benefited the fight against sex trafficking with Courage Worldwide who was opening safe houses for girls rescued out of sex trafficking in California and Kilimanjaro, Tanzania.  She eventually joined Courage Worldwide’s staff, and in 2017, after raising three boys, she and her husband took over as Executive Directors of Courage Worldwide Tanzania.  Since that time, the work in Tanzania has exploded from four residents and five staff at Courage House to sixty residents and children, fifty-five staff, two safe houses in the Kilimanjaro region, and a safe house in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, opening May 2023.  She is now the Courage Worldwide regional director of East Africa. 

Contact Information 

Email: Stephanie Midthun at s.midthun@courageworldwide.org 

Learn More  

Courage Worldwide Tanzania 

Other Resources  

Learn more about Courage Worldwide Tanzania. 

Read about the link between porn and sex trafficking in Porn's Complicity in Abuse by Mimi Haddad or listen to Pornography for Profit: The Link to Sex Trafficking by Sandra Morgan. 

Read about how to recognize and do something about human trafficking in The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 1) and The Selling and Buying of Souls (Part 2) by Sherry Schwartz. 

Leveraging Mujerista and Womanist Theologies for Ministry Among Victims and Survivors of Sex Trafficking by Valerie Geer. 

Why Men Who Oppose Trafficking Must Fight Patriarchy by Rebecca Kotz. 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

(New Voices) Equity in the Christian Workplace with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham

What does it mean to belong? How do we dismantle toxic systems and create equity in our missional spaces? Hosts Blake and Erin talk with Eeva Simard and Beth Birmingham about their practical book on organizational leadership and gender equality: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive. Be sure to pick up your copy at the CBE bookstore and visit The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development to follow their work. 

  

Guest Bios:  
Beth Birmingham is a professor, leadership consultant, author, speaker and facilitator/steering committee member for The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. She’s spent twenty-five years developing leaders for and serving in global development organizations, work that has taken her to over thirty countries. Beth is a member of the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity. Beth holds a PhD in leadership and change from Antioch University, and an MBA in international economic development from Eastern University. 

Eeva Sallinen Simard is project director of World Relief’s SCOPE project that works in Haiti, Kenya, Malawi, and South Sudan to support health outcomes for mothers and babies. She has worked with nonprofits for ten years and is committed to excellence in management, communication, and employee wellbeing. Eeva is an advisor for the Wheaton Consortium for Development, Gender, and Christianity and a steering committee member of The Christian Alliance for Inclusive Development. Eeva holds an MS in international politics from the University of Helsinki and an MBA from John Hopkins University. 

Together they co-authored Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive (IVP, 2022). 

Other Resources: 

Global Impact: Religious Gatekeeping and Egalitarian Leadership with Dr. Beth Birmingham 

Speakers Highlight: Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard 

Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive | Eeva Sallinen Simard and Beth Birmingham 

 

Disclaimer:  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

(Women and Words) “Male Pronouns Don’t Exist in 1 Timothy 3:1–7” with Dr. Philip B. Payne

 

Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.   

  

Guest Bio:  
Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.   

  

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:  

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne 
 
Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter! 
 

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.  
 

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne: 

• Can women be pastors? What I discovered during 50 years of research. 
• Does 1 Timothy 2:12-15 prohibit women from teaching or having authority over men?  
• Does I Corinthians say women have to cover their heads?  
• What Ephesians 5really teaches about husband-wife submission 
• Mutual submission in 1 Peter 3:1-7: Husband submit to wife?  
• Is the 'order of creation' male authority Bible argument valid? 

  
Disclaimer:  
The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

(Women and Men Leading Together) An Irresistible Vision with Wendy Wilson

Wendy Wilson, mission advisor for the Development of Women for Missio Nexus, is convinced that women and men are designed for full and equal partnership in ministry, and it shows! In this episode, Wendy challenges the church to awaken to that vision, and she provides one way to get there: safe, experiential spaces to talk about the theology and practice of mixed-gender ministry partnership. Listen and be inspired—as Wendy notes, change is happening! 

 

Guest Bio: 

Having served in various capacities in leadership training ministry since 1984, Wendy’s great joy is envisioning and equipping women to participate fully in living out their design in the Image of God and in the grand calling of the Great Commission. With a BBA from Texas A&M University and an MABS from Dallas Theological Seminary, Wendy has led inter-mission and inter-confessional mentoring and equipping efforts for 30+ years, having lived and traveled abroad for many of those years. After serving for twenty-eight years with a pastoral training mission, with a focus on engaging women with shepherding gifts, she has served since 2012 as the mission advisor for Development of Women to the Missio Nexus network of mission agencies, and as the founder and executive director of the collaborative Women’s Development Track. 

 

More info on Missio Nexus and Wendy’s ministry: 

 

Missio Nexus 

Women's Development Track 

 

Other Resources: 
 

CBE eLearning Course: Beyond Bias: Aligning towards God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

 

The Ministry of Women in the New Testament: Reclaiming the Biblical Vision for Church Leadership 

 

How to Teach Mutuality to the Next Generation 

 

Disclaimer: 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

(New Voices) “She Deserves Better” with Sheila Wray Gregoire

What are the messages the church sends to girls and women about modesty, sex, emotions, and self, producing as they grow up? Blake and Erin talk with Sheila Gregoire about her book: She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up. This discussion unpacks the damage being done and how we combat it to raise women and girls and our churches to love Jesus without the toxic culture that is breaking them down.  

  

Bio  

Sheila Wray Gregoire is the face behind BareMarriage.com, and a sought-after speaker, podcast host, and author. Sheila is passionate about changing the evangelical conversation about sex and marriage to line up with kingdom principles. She lives in Ontario, Canada, with her husband. They have two adult daughters and two grandbabies. She is an award-winning author of nine books, including The Great Sex Rescue and She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, And Speaking Up.  

 
Disclaimer  

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

  

Other Reading   
 

The Good News About Sex After Marriage: You Can Still Say “No” 

What I Wish the Church Had Told My Husband and Me About Sex and Consent 

We Need to Talk to Our Kids About Sexism at School: 4 Talking Points for Parents 

(Women and Words) “I Tried To Prove Egalitarians Wrong” with Dr. Philip B. Payne

Dr. Philip B. Payne is a key member of CBE’s Bible Translation Team. He was active and instrumental from the very start! During episodes one and two, Mimi and Phil explore the important translation decisions of the New Testament team on difficult texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11–15, 3:1–12; Ephesians 5:21–33; 1 Corinthians 11:2–16; 1 Peter 2:18, and more! Phil brings in conversations from the first century and explains some of the complexities to the whole translation process as it impacts the lives of girls, women, and their communities worldwide.

Guest bio: Philip B. Payne (Ph.D. University of Cambridge) has taught New Testament in colleges like the University of Cambridge, Trinity Evangelical Theological Seminary, Gordon- Conwell Theological Seminary, Bethel Seminary, and Fuller Theological Seminary. He is an expert on women in the Bible and Codex Vaticanus. His books include Man and Woman, One in Christ, Why Can’t Women Do That? and The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood: How God’s Word Consistently Affirms Gender Equality. He and his wife Nancy were missionaries in Japan. Their three children and six grandchildren all love the Lord.

Resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne:

CBE resources by Philip B. Payne

Follow @philipbpayne on Twitter!

Click to visit a list of resources by Dr. Philip B. Payne.

The Christian Post articles by Philip B. Payne:

• Can women be pastors? What I discovered during 50 years of research.

• Does 1 Timothy 2:12-15 prohibit women from teaching or having authority over men?

• Does I Corinthians say women have to cover their heads?

• What Ephesians 5really teaches about husband-wife submission

• Mutual submission in 1 Peter 3:1-7: Husband submit to wife?

• Is the 'order of creation' male authority Bible argument valid?

  Disclaimer:
  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

(New Voices) Us Bearing God’s Image, Not God Bearing Ours with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt

Show Notes  

Both complementarians and egalitarians have cited the doctrine of the imago Dei in the early chapters of Genesis as a cornerstone for their theology on women and men. Blake and Erin talk with Dr. Lucy Peppiatt about her book: The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. In this discussion, Dr. Peppiatt skillfully breaks down complex theological arguments often weaponized against women, such as the eternal subordination of Christ and 1 Corinthians 11:7–9. Be sure to pick up the book (and others by Peppiatt) at the CBE bookstore and visit her college’s website for free resources that link to the podcast discussion and her books: https://wtctheology.org.uk/lucy-peppiatt/ 

 

 Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

 

Bio  

Author and instructor, Dr. Lucy Peppiatt has been Principal of WTC (Westminster Theological Centre) since 2013. She teaches courses in Christian doctrine and spiritual formation. She holds bachelor’s degrees in both English and Theology. She completed her MA in systematic theology at King’s College, London, and her PhD through the University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand. Lucy’s research interests are Christ and the Spirit, charismatic theology, theological anthropology, discipleship, 1 Corinthians, and women in the Bible. Lucy is part of Crossnet Anglican Church in Bristol. She is married to Nick Crawley, and they have four sons and four daughters-in-law. She is the author of several books such as Rediscovering Scripture's Vision for Women: Fresh Perspectives on Disputed Texts, Women and Worship at Corinth, Unveiling Paul’s Women: Making Sense of 1 Corinthians 11:2–16, and The Imago Dei: Humanity Made in the Image of God. 

(Women and Words) Why Are There So Many Bible Translations? With Dr. Jeffrey Miller

Show Notes 

Have you ever wondered why there are so many different Bible translations? And which Bible translation is the “best” translation to use? On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Jeffrey Miller answer these questions and discuss the two major theories of Bible translation: formal equivalence (word-for-word) and functional equivalence (phrase-for-phrase). Jeff also gives some fascinating insights into which theory they used and when in CBE’s Bible translation project! 

 

Disclaimer 

The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

 

Bio 

Jeff Miller is editor of CBE’s academic journal, Priscilla Papers. He holds bachelor’s degrees in pastoral ministry and church music, an MDiv, and a PhD in biblical interpretation. Since 1999 he has taught biblical studies at Milligan University in eastern Tennessee. He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society and has published articles in journals such as The Bible Translator, Leaven, Restoration Quarterly, and Stone-Campbell Journal and CBE’s Mutuality. He and his wife Dana have two adult daughters and five grandchildren. For a list of resources by Jeff, visit CBE’s website here.  

Resources Cited 

• Journals 

• Priscilla Papers 
• The Bible Translator 

• Books: 

• God’s Word to Women, by Katharine Bushnell 

• New Testament for Everyone: Complete Eighteen-Volume Set, by N.T. Wright 

• Bible Translations cited during the Show: 

• The King James Bible 
• The Wycliffe Bible 
• The Tyndale Bible 

• Common English Bible: (CEB) 
• Contemporary English Version (CEV) 
• The NET Bible (NET) 
• New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) 
• The New International Bible (NIV) 

• The New American Standard Bible (NASB) 

Bible Passages Cited 

• Matthew 4:17: “From that time on Jesus began to preach, ‘Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.’” CEB 
• Proverbs 31:23: “Her husband is known in the gates, When he sits among the elders of the land.” NASB 
• Proverbs 31:31: “Give her the product of her hands, And let her works praise her in the gates.” NASB 

• Luke 13:18-21: “So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the sky nested in its branches.” And again He said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three sata of flour until it was all leavened.” CEB 

Other Resources 

• E-learning Courses: 

• Beyond Bias: Aligning Toward God’s Vision for Women and Men in Bible Translation 

• Videos 

• Gender Language in Bible Translation: From KJV to NIV 
• Video: Gender-Accurate Bible Translation Panel 

• Mutuality Matters Podcast 

• Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney 

• Mutuality Magazine 

• “Presumption and Bias in Bible Translation” 
• “Gender Accuracy in Bible Translation” 
• “The New NIV 2011” 

• Mutuality Blog: 

• Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation 

• Resources on Formal vs. Functional Equivalence: 

•  “What Are the Major Theories of Bible Translation?”