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Women, Men, Mutuality, and the Bible CBE’s Mutuality Matters podcast is part of CBE International’s online library of free resources! Hosts of CBE’s Mutuality Matters team offer weekly conversations with leaders, pastors, authors, scholars, activists, and humanitarians on women, men, shared leadership, and Scripture. CBE International (Christians for Biblical Equality) advances the gospel by equipping women and men of all cultures, races, and classes to lead and serve as equals. Founded in 1989, CBE has supporters and ministry partners in over 100 denominations and 65 countries, and offers annual conferences, adult and youth curricula, a curated bookstore, multi-media resources, award-winning publications, and a blog. Learn more at cbeinternational.org.
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Thursday Aug 06, 2020
S2 E3: It's Not a Gender Battle
Thursday Aug 06, 2020
Thursday Aug 06, 2020
They say never meet your heroes, but Erin did! And she was not disappointed! In this episode, Erin and Blake have a conversation with author and theologian, Carolyn Custis James. They touch on topics such as the biblical themes in Frozen 2, the story of Ruth, and the theology of the "blessed alliance."
Carolyn Custis James is an award winning author who thinks deeply about what it means to be a female follower of Jesus in a postmodern world. Her speaking and writing ministry is dedicated to addressing the deeper needs and issues confronting both women and men as they endeavor to extend God’s kingdom together in a messy and complicated world. Carolyn is an adjunct faculty member at Missio Seminary in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and a consulting editor for Zondervan’s Exegetical Commentary Series on the New Testament. She speaks regularly at church conferences, colleges, and for other Christian organizations both in the US and abroad and is a guest lecturer at various theological seminaries.
Find her work on her website: https://carolyncustisjames.com and follow her on Twitter at @carolynezer.
Pick up any one or more of her incredible books!
- Finding God in the Margins: The Book of Ruth (2018)
- Malestrom: Manhood Swept into the Currents of a Changing World (2015)
- Half the Church: Recapturing God’s Global Vision for Women (2011)
- The Gospel of Ruth: Loving God Enough to Break the Rules (2008)
- Understanding Purpose (2006)
- Lost Women of the Bible: The Women We Thought We Knew (2005)
- When Life and Beliefs Collide: How Knowing God Makes a Difference (2001)

Thursday Jul 23, 2020
S2 E2: ”Why didn‘t God make me a boy so I could be a preacher?”
Thursday Jul 23, 2020
Thursday Jul 23, 2020
In episode two of season two, Erin and Blake have a conversation with Kristen Padilla about theology of vocation and finding their calling while understanding the complex nature of women's leadership in the church. Padilla, who once thought the only way for her to be in ministry was to apply to be a pastor's wife, is currently the marketing and communications director for Beeson Divinity School. Her first book Now That I’m Called: A Guide for Women Discerning a Call to Ministry was released in 2018.
Support & Follow Kristen!

Thursday Jul 09, 2020
S2 E1: Tackling the Classics
Thursday Jul 09, 2020
Thursday Jul 09, 2020
Blake and Erin are back in action! This season we are excited to focus our episodes on the "classic" arguments from Scripture and culture about men and women in marriage, the church, and society. In this introductory episode, Blake & Erin give you a preview into what you can expect and who you can expect this season. These discussions are so big, we knew we'd need some help. So we asked our smart friends to join us and you won't want to miss out on this A-List cast of guests.
And be sure to listen to the podcast all the way to the end for a #BIGANNOUNCEMENT about a new feature we are introducing to our podcast fam. Welcome to #Season2!

Thursday May 07, 2020
Ep 12: Local Heroes - Dr. Jordan Rowan Fannin
Thursday May 07, 2020
Thursday May 07, 2020
In this final episode of season one, Blake and Erin talk with a Dr. Jordan Rowan Fannin, a theology professor at Berry College. Not only is she on first-name basis with Flannery O'Connor (unbeknownst to O'Conner), Dr. Rowan Fannin has a lot to share about teaching feminism and theology and what she personally has learned through this experience.

Thursday Apr 23, 2020
EP 11: Local Heroes - Adam Hubert
Thursday Apr 23, 2020
Thursday Apr 23, 2020
An alumni of Berry College and of the Chaplain's Office, Adam Hubert joins Blake and Erin to discuss biblical manhood, race, decolonization, and Adam's own journey. Adam is now a teacher and coach in Greensboro, North Carolina. Follow Adam on Twitter at @_aHuby
Recommendations in this episode:
Pass the Mic Podcast
Truth's Table Podcast
Esau McCaulley's Reading While Black

Thursday Apr 09, 2020
Ep 10: Local Heroes - Stacie Marshall
Thursday Apr 09, 2020
Thursday Apr 09, 2020
When both Erin & Blake tear up during an interview, you KNOW it's gonna be good! We are so thrilled to introduce our listeners to local hero, Stacie Marshall. Blake and Erin pepper her with questions about her life journey as a college minister and understanding of gender theology. Marshall has been influential on the campus Blake and Erin live on, and her story illustrates how gender theology can change a life.

Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Ep 9: Local Heroes - Rev. Dr. Jonathan Huggins
Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Thursday Mar 26, 2020
NEW SERIES! We have been very excited about bringing on some of our friends who are formative in our own journey's with gender theology.
First up is Rev. Dr. Jonathan Huggins! He is the Chaplain of Berry College, a church history scholar, and priest in the ACNA. Besides being the BOSS (of both Blake and Erin), he is a champion for cooperative ministry between men and women.
Show Notes:
N.T. Wright's article with Christians for Biblical Equality
Lucy Peppiatt's books: Rediscovering Scripture's Vision for Women and Women and Worship at Corinth
Connect:
Twitter: @mutualitymatter
Instagram: @mutuality_matters
Facebook: @mutualitymatter
Website: mutualitymatters.podbean.com
Hosts:
Blake: blakewdean (FB, Instagram)
Erin: efaithmo (FB, Twitter, Instagram)

Thursday Mar 12, 2020
Ep 8: Dating Series 4 - Q&A Wrap-Up
Thursday Mar 12, 2020
Thursday Mar 12, 2020
Today, Blake and Erin wrap up our series on Dating! We've been taking your questions throughout the series (thanks!) and so this episode covers a lot of territory. We hope you enjoyed this series and that you benefited from these topics! Keep sending us your thoughts and questions.
Some resources for you from this episode:
Documentary: "Over 18" (available on Amazon Prime)
Article: "Consuming Ecstasy: Representations of Male and Female Orgasm in Mainstream Pornography"
Book: Carolyn Custis James' "When Life and Beliefs Collide"
Connect:
Twitter: @mutualitymatter
Instagram: @mutuality_matters
Facebook: @mutualitymatter
Website: mutualitymatters.podbean.com
Hosts:
Blake: blakewdean (FB, Instagram)
Erin: efaithmo (FB, Twitter, Instagram)

Thursday Feb 27, 2020
EP 7: Dating Series Part 3
Thursday Feb 27, 2020
Thursday Feb 27, 2020
In this episode, Blake and Erin talk about singleness and what this means for dating, friendship, and gender theology. We would love to hear from our listeners for upcoming episodes, so find us on social media @mutuality_matters to engage with us!
Resources mentioned in this episode:
https://anglicanpastor.com/how-to-provide-the-sacrament-of-family-to-single-people/
https://spiritualfriendship.org/author/wahill/
http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/the-significance-of-singleness/389841

Thursday Feb 13, 2020
Ep 6: Dating Series Part 2
Thursday Feb 13, 2020
Thursday Feb 13, 2020
In the second installment of the series on dating, Rev. Erin Moniz and Blake Dean discuss purity culture and hook up culture and how this impacts dating and gender theology.